sweet effay

If I'd actually bothered to read all the stuff on that Filth site I linked to before I'd posted, I'd have realized that Grant has answered my question there - He really is/was Greg Feely (although apparently he is now an Ipsissimus, which puts him in the same occult league as Crowley - Make of that what you will). He doesn't seem to mention whether he spends all his time wanking over porn and photoshopping ants' heads onto to children's bodies though...

don't mess with nyarlathotep, be warned!

I refuse ever to be scared of something I can't pronounce.....

I refuse ever to be scared of something I can't pronounce

If you go here, you'll find all you need to know about how to pronounce the name of the Dreaming One.

Didn't Morrison himself have some weird skin-eating virus as he was finishing the Invisibles that leached into the final few issues? Life imitates art imitates.....get better.

There's a fairly enormous interview with Grant Morrison which includes some stuff about how he is Greg Feely, and the magical significance of The Filth.

Cheers Tim!

yuck

er, actually I hope very much that Keanu tries to affect the scouse accent, as the generic 'posh English' one he had in Dracula was a scream! (and it could make this new film bearably amusing when I'm forced to watch it on a coach or during a family Christmas or something)

Hellblazer isn't the only comic-movie coming out in the near future. Unfortunately Preacher is being made into a film and reviews of the script say that it is going to be awful. I wish that they'd leave it alone! On the other hand, "Sin City" is out later this year and the trailer looks pretty good; it's in black and white except parts that Frank Miller has illustrated over the top.

However on a ratio of bad comic films to good comic films it seems that bad ones are made more than good.

I'd be hard pressed to come up with a good cinematic adaptation of a comic book: Tank Girl perhaps, but that might be just bacause of the presence of Naomi Watts and the sheer entertainment value of seeing a rapper dressed as a kangaroo.

Pete. I'd blotted Dracula out of my memory>. I love really crap horror film, but that was so bad I didn't even make it to the end.

all I can remember of it is rivers of blood and Keanu's stupid fucking voice

Tank Girl !??**@@!!!?????

Tank Girl !??**@@!!!?????

I only said 'perhaps'. Let's face it, the competition is not very high is it?

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that, in the past year, we got in 'The Incredibles' and 'Spider Man 2' pretty much the definitive comic book movies - (the makers of Fantastic Four I'm sure left the cinema in despair after The Incredibles) I honestly think that if people don't like those films, it's'cos they don't like comic books.

That said, the darker, anti-heroes that all us old guys like have yet to translate successfully to screen and maybe it'll never happen.

I'm all geared up for a year of big disappointments all round (Batman, Star Wars, Dr Who) - that way I might be pleasantly surprised.

I've not seen The Incredibles, but I thought Spider Man 2 was very poor; in fact I preferred the first one. I quite enjoyed Doctor Octopus, but thought that Tobey Maguire's decision to play Peter Parker as a somnambulist robbed all the non-Spidey scenes of any emotional leverage which they were supposed to create.

Ah yeah...but Kirsten Dunst is a babe.....

Actually I didn't like that bit where Doc Ock's arms have a mind of their own.
He even has a bit of a conversation with one towards the end - like Rod Hull and Emu!

This reminds me of a tv series they had about Italy a few years ago. Three 'goth' girls had killed a nun, and the press started jumping up and down about Marilyn Manson and his pernicious effect on the trio.

In the end it turned out that the girls couldn't speak a word of English...trying to demonstrate the influence of the lyrics thus proved somewhat difficult.

This seems another imported American trend. I used to believe only in the U.S. could anyone find some daft old prancing prankster like Manson to be genuinely scarey. Over here, everyone would just mistake him for some guy who tag teamed with Catweazel and Kendo Nagasaki on Saturday teatime wrestling or something like that.

I'm with you on this " I�m not making excuses for him. If he did it, they should never let him out."
but when you look at the case (Scotland Today covers the main points) and subtract some of the rubbish that you have already identified. Its a pretty thin case imho. Being so high profile you also guess that they threw a lot of resources at it.

What a waste of webspace your site is

Glad you like it! As a card carrying Bataillean, I am of course dedicated to as much useless expenditure as possible.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only person who is shocked at this conviction, as far as I can see there was NO evidence - just a load of speculation. Check out the stephen dowler case (bakewell tart murder) because this has striking similarities. BTW I'm not from the area or under the age of 40...!!

Hello, my name's Lynsey I'm fourteen years old and I am a 'goth' I am writing to say that it is ridiculous how people are reacting towards the Jodi Jones murder trials, I live in a remote village not too far from Glasgow with a very low number of people living in it. I am shunned by the people of my village as I am a goth, my parents have had the minister round, I was sacked from my job, mothers don't walk their children on the same side of the street as me. It's completly ridiculous, the minister has threatened to send me to the local young offenders institute for doing what? I've smoked some hash? I've had underage sex? I'm a bisexual! Hell its not the first time I've written 666 in my jotters! I have statements like 'The Devil made me do it' or 'smile satan loves you' but I'm not hacking people to pieces am I? My parents and the minister are thinking of shutting down my nightclub also known as the CatHouse and now I'm letting everyone know I'm putting my foot down.

Lynsey Gray

Hi

Not sure if anyone can help. I am doing a radio documentary on the goth culture - trying to dispell the myth that has grown since the Luke Mitchell case that goths are always interested in satan and are potentially violent. it would be great to get arguements for and against this. if anyone is interested in being interviewed it would be great to hear from you.

George
georgemear@hotmail.com

I agree i find it an outrage that goths and rockers are presucuted for there musical prefrences and there style of dress altough this crime disgusted and shocked me and was one of pure evil it doesnt mean every darkly dressed teen is going to go out and slaughter the innocent

When I was in High school I dressed like a goth. I listened to Marilyn Manson all the time. I too made Satanic signs in my school work. Now I am a 20 year old mother of 2. I have beautiful children who are very smart. I still listen to Manson, still dress goth at times. My oldest son is only 3 but he knows right from wrong. He is respectful to everyone. The point is, is that I am doing a really good job raising my kids, I gave up a lot so that I can stay home and school them, so they can get all the attention they deserve. I do all this and love Marilyn Manson, crazy isn't it?

I grew up in the suburbs of London and have a vivid memory of one of my early journeys on the London Underground circa 1980. On the tube were 2 punks/goths dressed in the Siouxie and the Banchees Style. I remember being scared of them and that they smelt of very strong perfume (?). Later I was in a band with a group of goths who needed a singer for 1 gig and they were a collection of social and physical freaks, but it got me over my gothophobia - at the time I was a hippie. I later became a mod and bought decks in 1994 with my friend who was a hippie Aceed Raver who had been attacked as a teenager on a bus in Hull for being a Goth. When he told me of his having been a Goth, I considered it the height of bad taste, but it warmed me up further toward Gothicism. Recently I have attended a Punkvert night in London and wore the Alex from Clockwork Orange Uniform of False eyelashes in my right eye and nail polish on my left hand. Is this Gothic Revival part of a general trend toward Theism? I know little of Goth Music other than that it is Industrial and I like various 80s hits from Goth style bands. When I worked in Our Price I worked with a Bull Lesbob who kept playing Siouxsie stuff which I also liked some of. I remember from that time that NIN was Industrial Music.
I will be DJing soon at Clockwork in King's Cross and want to play something that is relatively contemporary and interesting as I intend to play an eclectic set. I tend to look away from Goth Bands and Metal bands for decent music due to popular Goth music of people like Manson and Placebo being (although catchy) relatively banal and derivative (unless I am wanting to be retro for drunken fools or for my heart).
'Come to Daddy' by Aphex Twin is a 'wicked choon' that would be defined at some kind of 'Techno' by oldskoolers but could also be seen as expressing the teenage angst of Goths.
Can anyone suggest/send me decent Punk / Metal / Industrial electronic and guitar thrash?
I was Air Force 1 recently in which the plane tries to land at Ramstein Air Base in Germany - I have heard Ramstein on the Jonathon Ross Radio show on Radio 2 and want to hear some more.
Are goths wannabe Catholics? Are Catholics wannabe Goths?
St. Pancras Station was designed by George Gilbert Scott whose son designed Bankside Powerstation (now Tate Modern). What does this mean re: Minimalism/ Fascism / Albert Speer / Cluttered heads and Cluttered lives/ Cluttered Architecture?
Does the recent fashion for burlesque / Cabaret in London mean we are in for Conservative minimalism / Fascism in 4/5 years time? Are we in a post-postmodern era where there are Fascism and Liberalism, Goth and Mod can mix freely without getting stuck up their own arses / psychotic feuding!
The new Mod/Goth hybrid I hereby name the Moth and hope to see them all flittering around the flames coming out of the speakers
Come down to Clockwork (yet to be confirmed) and find out if they can take the heat or if they get burned. Dyed in the wool Goths/Punks/Cyberdogs also welcome as long as you don't smell too bad.

hay, it is so ludicaras to think that listning to a cirtain type of music can make you go and kill prople, it is not so ludicras to think yeah ..a goth could kill someone although so could your nanna! see my point? i know alot of 'goths' and most of them are really nice people just making a statement, yes you do get ur physco type but u do get ur phyco type of "normal person".. just because they ware dark clothing and listen to rock doesnt mean they wanna go out n murder people or kill them selves and i pitty those who think that it just proves that u are closed minded and rude! i am what you would call a "mosher" which is the closest you could get to being a "goth" and i and my friends are nowhere near braking point if you get what i mean! ne way how do u know god wasnt a rocker punk goth who got high a couple of times a week??????

how do u know god wasnt a rocker punk goth who got high a couple of times a week??????

Because if he was, the charts wouldn't be so full of crap ;)

im a manson fan and i know what its like with idiot linking them. honestely. as soon as they find a cd from manson they ALLWAYS BLAME HIM.

typical eh?

IT ISN'T BEING SUGGESTED THAT HE KILLED SIMPLY BECAUSE HE LISTENED TO MARILYN MANSON! Pay attention to the facts! During the investigation it became known that Luke Mitchell was a fan of Marilyn Manson's artwork, shown on his official website. Manson has created portraits based on the death photo of Elizabeth Short in the 1940s (aka the Black Dahlia). Miss Short's injuries depicted in the gruesome photo were almost identical to those that evil sick weirdo Luke inflicted on Jodi - slashing the face from mouth to ear, slashing the breast and stomach. Further evidence such as Luke's mental state (he hoarded bottles of his own urine in his room - a classic sign of psychosis), his knife case with Jodi's initials and the day she died carved into the leather, and many more pieces of evidence led to his conviction! If you're not going to take the time to really look into the facts, there's no point in commenting!

If you had bothered to follow the link and read the BBC article, you would see that was exactly what they were suggesting. I was commenting on the press reaction, not the case itself.

And so it continues...
As opposed to actually taking the time to do a properly investigative job, the modern hack instead has to backslide upon scare tactics in order to come up with anything resembling a plausible story.

The first thing you have to ask yourself: What are the reporter's goals? From my standpoint- it should be obvious- he/she is determined to prove that that which he/she doesn't like is source for all of the world's evils.

Here in America, Ted Bundy (the serial killer) tried to use the Pornography defense in an effort to get away from the death penalty- he quickly dropped any claim for it's "evil effects" when it became apparent that outside of the Puritanical forces, no one was going to take him seriously.

One could also make the connection for this young lad and the evils of DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!!!

> Are goths wannabe Catholics? Are Catholics
> wannabe Goths?

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mary-leen teen man?son!!hahaha!mothafucking senile teen!wud some1 plz tell him2 drag his goblin ass to india to bring some goddamned civilization???

Truly it is a mythtery....

"another, similar, spiky 80's chanteuse..."

siouxsie? oh, what's the name of that woman who sang instead of Bob Smith on The Glove? or are you cocking a snook at David Sylvian? Hmm?

p.s. (highly unrelated) there are, perhaps surprisingly in the current 'climate', some fine children's picture books with 'an edge'.
'Frog Belly Rat Bone' is attractively grotty and washed out, 'Dirty Bertie' has a valuable shock value and akk outta time!

'Dirty Bertie', eh?! Sounds like a good present for someone I happen to know....

Pete, you're miles off target. There is no way that I would banish Siouxsie or Landray (well, on Blue Sunshine anyway. What else did she do?) to the loft. Think someone a bit like Toyah, but not as good.

hmm, it's the 'not as good' that's giving me cognitive dissonance...
Cindi Lauper?

Hazel O' bloody Connor?

Spot on, Melmoth! I used to try to get Mrs effay to see the error of her ways over this but even now, if pressed, she will make statements such as "Well, she was good in Breaking Glass." Then she has the cheek to complain when I put on Nurse With Wound!

Hawkwind and Toyah...?

Easy: They've both played Stonehenge and both presented holiday programs.

They've both played Stonehenge and both presented holiday programs.

Well, it's true that Nik Turner worked in the holiday industry, selling 'Kiss Me Quick' hats on Margate beach, but when did Toyah play Stonehenge?

thanks for this, john...see my response (amplification) over at my place (too long for the comments box) :)

At least I don't translate during my own dinner parties, unlike someone else I won't mention....

I make it sound like I'm cross in that post, when I was merely tired (carrying around all that mince, probably). It was a lovely party!

For readers of this blog some revealing info: Johneffay has so many CDs that he couldn't find a single new one he wanted, even though I took him to Berwick St and just about every other bloody record shop in the whole of London. The big bastard!

I need loads more CDs, just not the ones in London record shops. Anyway, I'd already received nine from the Cuddly Scotsman before we set off shopping.

I was glad when the Mild Prince of Italian Marxism started translating during the dinner party: It was the only time I could get a whole sentence out in without being interrupted!

"the only time I could get a whole sentence out in [sic.] without being interrupted!"

Were you trying to get it in or out? Make up your mind. In some cultures it's rude to interrupt; in others it's rude not to; in Italy it's rude not to.

What would an INTRAruption be like?

Were you trying to get it in or out? Make up your mind.

Either would have been good.

In some cultures it's rude to interrupt; in others it's rude not to; in Italy it's rude not to.

Yeah, but when in Rome... ;)

>>> Yeah, but when in Rome... ;)

Eh? I fort yu sed you wos in london?

you had to give up singing in the school choir because you were anaemic? That's pretty pasty, even if I do say so myself.

My image of you as a pale, interesting and deeply twisted young man has just received ample confirmation with this news. You're not related (whoever distantly) to the Romanovs are you? Or Rasputin..?!

I used to faint during concerts. This was seen as something of a disadvantage and so I had to withdraw from the choir. I also used to faint during school assemblies. This was not such a disadvantage, as it meant that I got to spend the morning in the school sanatorium rather than doing PE or whatever.

I very much hope that I am not related to the Romanovs, as that would also mean that I was related to Prince Philip!

i managed to hang on with Jerry 'til the grim end (though my wife and I were both suffering badly by the sheer Merzbowesque noise that spewed out...), figuring it was some kind of awful cultural imperative and we too counted the swearwords, daubing them in choc-paint on our nekkid bodies each time the chorus wailed WTF WTF WTFFFedy F...

shit though, wasn't it?

and i'm very sorry you had to leave the choir due to anomie.

Down the corner-shop this morning I glanced at the front of a paper that said the BBC producer who organised the showing has had to go into hiding with his family after a 'Christian' web-site posted his home-address...apparently there's been threats against him and his family. Turn the other cheek, eh? Fuckers...

Top-marks for yr use to the phrase 'Flo and Eddie era Zappa', though. Poss. my least favourite Zappa era apart from virtually all of the Eighties:-) They did the backing-vocals on all the classic T-Rex stuff, so they're therefore auto-exempt from prosecution for being tossers.

They did the backing-vocals on all the classic T-Rex stuff, so they're therefore auto-exempt from prosecution for being tossers.

Surely they're auto-exempt simply by virtue of being The Turtles? 'Surfer Dan' is an absolute classic.

'Least favourite Zappa era' seems like an interesting concept. Mine would certainly involve Flo & Eddie. Somewhere between June and August 1971, I think.

Wow, The Turtles...yes, of course. "Case Dismissed!"

Hmm. Didn't The Mothers cover 'Happy Together'...? Best I don't start a Zappa thread here, John, or your readers will desert in droves...

I wonder: Does Ben Watson have a blog?

Hmm. Didn't The Mothers cover 'Happy Together'...?

Indeed they did. You can find it officially released for your listening pleasure on 'Fillmore East, June 1971' and 'Freaks and Motherfuckers' from the first 'Beat the Boots' Boxset. Neither are as good as the original.

Best I don't start a Zappa thread here, John, or your readers will desert in droves...

Hang on, are you saying that there are people out there who aren't interested in Frank Zappa? Perhaps I'd better not do a pots on the vexed question of what gauge of guitar strings he used to use after all then...

That man certainly knew how to craft a long and convoluted sentence.

Humanist John! Here's to a happier 2004 to you and yours.

If you think that beach is busy you should see the traffic in Tehran...

The conspiracy theory here about the quake is that either Russia or the US were nuclear testing and something went wrong. Not one of the better ones I've heard. Still, people here (and elsewhere) are massively compassionate went it comes to these things - I think I told you that after the Bam earthquake, hundreds of thousands of people queued for days to give blood and donate blankets and so on.

People are not scumbags, indeed, and shaming governments into doing more, in lieu of them withering away, is always to be prized.

Oh bejesus, I meant 2005, of course. They make these comment boxes all enticing, you fill them with crap, then post 'em up forevermore...